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Children and late seders

Just wondering what others do for their children considering how late kiddush and seders actually start, for those who start after tzeit? (And live in North America/930+ nighttimes)

I know some who have children stay up as late as they can before going to their beds, some have them sleep at the table or couch where they can still hear/absorb the ruach in their sleep, some do early kids’/mock seders, some don’t have kids at the Seder until they are old enough to stay up/participate.

I know seders are, at their core, meant to be for the children… Curious about practices, ideas, and opinions from others who hold late seders and have kids! Thx

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